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Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« am: 4.09.2003 | 07:39 »
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Cool Planning Tool: The Campaign Survey

A guest article by Randall Farmer

Just by way of introduction, I have been GMing since the days of Greyhawk. I have always run rather long duration campaigns. However, about eighteen months ago it became clear that my 4th campaign was having problems due to a set of circumstances involving game and real world conflicts, and I wanted some ideas for what sort of new campaign my players would be interested in (to prepare for the current campaign flaming out).

To aid my research, I came up with the following new campaign survey. Given the subject of Issue #97:


6 Tips For Starting & Planning A Campaign
[ http://www.roleplayingtips.com/issue97.asp ]


I thought you might be interested in how I approached the early stages of planning for my new campaign. The results of this survey were later tabulated, and later (after a great many intermediate steps) led to the campaign being designed, play-tested, and now run. I've got 7 gaming sessions of the actual campaign under my belt as of this writing.

One important note: I am a rules experimentalist who does not balk at designing rulesets and house rules for whatever new campaign I am going to be GMing. Some of the survey questions assume that some rule tweaks might need to be done for the campaign pending the survey's results.

Also note that I discovered the Roleplaying Tips Weekly E- Zine about a couple of years ago and have incorporated many of its tips into the design and running of my campaign - for which I greatly thank Johnn and the other participating GMs for their ideas.

First, some notes on how to fill out and use the survey; these should be distributed to all the players along with the actual survey questions themselves.

Note 1: All questions are either answered multiple choice or with a numeric rating. The numeric ratings are from 1-5, where:
1 means "Fully agree"
2 means "Sort of agree"
3 means "Neutral"
4 means "Sort of disagree"
5 means "Fully disagree"


Note 2: The "setting" questions in the survey involve the campaign tactical style, not the actual campaign mythos. For instance, one could do a Tolkienish setting (the characters have insignificant powers compared to the bad guys) in a Thieves World mythos (you're in a city; there are lots of city politics and power games going on).

Note 3: The words "I" and "me" refer to the survey respondents, not the GM.

Note 4: The purpose of this survey is to find out what things are agreed upon and which are not. Of course, if something is not agreed upon, then the chances of it showing up in a new campaign should be proportionally limited.

Note 5: Just because something is on the survey and agreed upon does not mean that it is playable - especially when regards to conflicts between different survey questions (and their agreed upon answers).


Game Rules

1. As a player, I want to know as many of the rules involved with my character as I can, down to the most mundane level. I don't like things being fuzzy.

2. I want there to be a single ruleset in the campaign. I don't even want the opposition to use any other rulesets.

3. I want fixed rules I can argue with.

4. I want a ruleset that is expandable.

5. I want a ruleset that can fit on one 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper.

6. I want the ruleset(s) to be something I've seen before. If you agree with this, please indicate what ruleset(s) you would like to see.

7. I want a ruleset with enough scope so that characters can utilize just one piece of it and have it be simple. It should also have aspects that are complicated enough to challenge any of us.

8. I want a ruleset that is fully known to the characters at the beginning of the campaign

9. I want a ruleset that is complicated enough to make players think about its use at all times.

10. I want to use a ruleset that has been purchased from a store.

11. If it does not have dice rolls, it is just 'set up', not a real FRP ruleset.

12. I want a ruleset that is the same for all characters (e.g. Magic the Gathering used as a stand-alone ruleset).

13. I want enough rulesets and options so that if I change my mind, I can change what my character is doing.

14. I want the ruleset tied to the game mythos so tightly it cannot possibly be used in any other campaign.

15. I want each character to have its own ruleset (or exclusive special area of a large scope ruleset).

16. Individual powers my character has should have only fixed results in all situations.

17. I want the ruleset to be 'modern', involving 'cards' and 'card swapping' between characters.

18. I want the ruleset to be simple enough for my cat to run a character.

19. I want lots and lots of rulesets (enough to keep my head spinning).

20. A ruleset that involves 'finding powers' one's character can use as part of 'expeditioning loot' would be interesting.

21. Individual powers my character has should be fully delineated in as complete a manner as possible (e.g. a 'verbose' ruleset, such as D&D 2nd or 3rd edition).

22. A ruleset that 'tops out' is not for me.

23. I want to be able to 'self expand' the ruleset.

24. The closer the ruleset is to a 'board game' style ruleset, the better.

25. If it does not have firearms, I'm not going to like the ruleset.

26. If it does not involve magic, I'm not going to like the ruleset.

27. If it does not involve psionics, I'm not going to like the ruleset.

28. The ruleset should not involve 'making powers' (powers that design other powers).

29. The ruleset should be stable over the life of the campaign.

30. A 'profession oriented' ruleset is preferable to one with 'ad hoc' power gain.

31. The ruleset should not involve ultra-flexible, programmable, or 'wordable' powers.

32. The ruleset should be based on mundane ability-like skills (e.g. basic GURPS).

33. The ruleset should involve a large amount of growth in power from 'beginner' to 'topped out'.

34. After 10 years of the campaign, my character should still be 'low level'.

35. The capabilities of the character (using the ruleset) should be tied to the capabilities of the player (gaming the ruleset).

36. I prefer a numeric ruleset (D&D) over a qualitative ruleset (FUDGE).

37. Comments?


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Game Mythos (Grand Strategy)

38. I want a short campaign with a fixed endpoint, and it should last only a few months or years.

39. I want the characters to grow as the campaign progresses.

40. I want the characters to be (or grow to be) very powerful.

41. I want a campaign with a lot of infrastructure so the characters get lots of help.

42. I want the campaign to be 'ruleset irrelevant' (e.g. would work with any ruleset).

43. I don't want the GM to work within a campaign setting - continuity between scenarios is not needed (e.g. the D&D 'multiverse').

44. I don't want a GM, I want a Judge (that is, to have no input past initial campaign design; campaign expansion is by module purchase only, if allowed at all).

45. Which of the following 5 statements best represents your view of what you want a GM to do:
I want the GM to work with fixed scenarios only, doing no ongoing adjustment to the scenario based on what the characters are doing.
I want the GM to work with a relatively fixed 'future history', treating the world as static save for what the characters do and change.
I want the GM to work within a very loose structure, based on only a few known guide posts, working just ahead of the characters.
I want the GM to work with an extremely minimal structure (e.g. the proverbial 10 page mythos), judging character interactions with the outside universe based on what 'seems right' and lots of ad hoc dice rolling.
I want the GM to work with no structure, basing everything on ad hoc die rolling and perhaps a '1 page mythos'.


46. Characters should be as 'human' as possible.

47. The campaign universe should be as Earth-like as possible.

48. I want the campaign to be a continuation of one of my recent campaigns (and their mythos) in some fashion or other.

49. I want the campaign to be a continuation of one of the campaigns I ran over a decade ago.

50. I would like to see the next campaign be in an existing fictional setting (if you agree, place several interesting fictional settings in the 'comment' line below).

51. I would like to see lots of 'nonsense' and 'fantasy' in the campaign.

52. I would like to see lots of 'magic' in the campaign.

53. I would like to see lots of 'psionics' in the campaign.

54. I would like to see lots of 'machine tech' in the campaign.

55. I would like to see lots of 'high fantasy themes' in the campaign.

56. I would like to see lots of 'cartoon themes' in the campaign.

57. I would like to see lots of 'low fantasy hack and slash themes' in the campaign.

58. I would like to see lots of 'religion themes' in the campaign.

59. I would like to see lots of 'horror themes' in the campaign.

60. I would like to see lots of 'comic book themes' in the campaign.

61. I would like to see lots of 'romance novel themes' in the campaign.

62. I would like to see lots of 'political themes' in the campaign.

63. I would like to see lots of 'military themes' in the campaign.

64. I would like to see lots of 'political /military thriller themes' in the campaign.

65. I would like to see lots of 'economic themes' in the campaign.

66. I would like to see lots of 'cute fuzzy wuzzy fantasy themes' in the campaign.

67. I would like to see lots of 'science fiction themes' in the campaign.

68. I would like to see lots of 'mysteries and mysticism' in the campaign.

69. I would like to see lots of 'really obscure creative things' in the campaign.

70. I would like to see no themes in the campaign - inconsistency is more enjoyable.

71. Comments?


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Game Mythos (Tactics And The Like)

72. Which one of the following 8 options best describes your desired 'game morality':
I want us to be 'saints' who never do violence.
I want us to be 'good guys' that resort to violence only as a 'last resort'.
I want us to be 'greedy neutrals' that do whatever it takes, whenever we need to.
I want us to be 'benevolent despots' that believe that the ends justify the means.
I want us to be 'evil thugs' (with the proverbial 'hearts of gold').
I want us to be 'really dark and evil creatures of horror' with no redeeming social value, just in it for the power.
I want us to be morally inconsistent (e.g. 'utter good guys' who rape, maim, and kill without regards to any ongoing consequences).
Other - please explain.


73. Which one of the following 5 options best describes how you would want the characters to match up to the 'bad guys':
I'd like a Tolkienish setting where PCs had insignificant powers compared to the bad guys.
I'd like a 'Nine Princes in Amber' setting where the PCs are essentially Gods and nearly everyone else is powerless.
I'd like to see a 'Thieves World' setting with little difference between top and bottom powers that be.
I'd like to see a David Eddings 'Belgariad' setting where the only people with 'real powers' are the PCs, a few NPCs and the (small number) of enemies.
Other. Please explain.


74. Which of the following 5 options best describes the way you would like to see the campaign run:
I would like to see the campaign run with miniatures at the individual character level.
I would like to see the campaign run with miniatures at the army level.
I would like to see the campaign run 'imagination style' at the high level but with detailed melee combat.
I would like to see the campaign run 'imagination style' at a higher level (and without melee details).
Other. Please explain.


75. Which of the following 5 options best describes the way you would like expedition time to run:
I would like to see expeditions take up mere hours of game time when adventuring.
I would like to see expedition take up days to weeks of game time when adventuring.
I would like to see the campaign run without any concept of game time.
I would like to see the expedition take up months of game time when adventuring.
Other. Please explain.


76. I would like to see characters die and be replaced upon occasion, such that after two years of the campaign, the likelihood of any starting character surviving would be nil.

77. I would like to have a sheaf of characters to choose from, deciding which one I am going to run on a scenario by scenario basis.

78. I want everyone to have just one character, and for that character to essentially be unkillable (with the GM intervening to make sure there are always ways out).

79. I love having lots of 'guilds' and 'organizations' of peers around to interact with.

80. I despise 'enchantments' and 'items of power'.

81. I would rather utilize a complex multi-option power (with results that need to be interpreted) in a melee than a numerical attribute.

82. I love quests.

83. Having other player characters as enemies is just fine.

84. I really like the characters being on their own, without any guidance, or any idea about what to do or what should be being done.

85. Roleplaying detracts from running a character and campaign enjoyment.

86. I want the campaign to end soon after it starts.

87. I want the campaign to be disjointed sets of scenarios in the same mythos, with different characters in each.

88. I love 'dungeon trashing'.

89. I want the GM to provide us with characters.

90. No exploration. The universe should be given to us to start with, fully developed. I would rather the 'opposition', whatever that may be, comes to me.

91. I like having numerous low to medium powered bad guys ("cannon fodder", like orcs) to kill.

92. I want the campaign to hand out loot so infrequently that you see it only once every half dozen 'adventures' at best.

93. Interactions with Greater Beings and Gods should only be on an adversarial level.

94. Anything that allows any aspect of 'foretelling the future', even 'possible futures' is wrong.

95. I despise the idea of 'multiple universes' in a campaign.

96. Having 'new things' show up in the campaign detracts from character development.

97. I despise the idea of 'time travel' in a campaign.

98. Enhanced physical combat should be a very rare capability.

99. I don't want to ever have to make any decisions, other than at the melee-tactical level.

100. 'Action at a distance' powers (e.g. psionics) are not fair, and should not be in a campaign.

101. I have no problems with having to 'discover the ruleset' (or rulesets) as we go along.

102. I like having 'alternate timelines', 'planes' and other strange aspects of reality to explore in the campaign.

103. I would rather put my mental effort into dealing with 'the opposition' as opposed to dealing with 'ruleset issues'.

104. Spell casters should be common if not ubiquitous.

105. The more 'world', the better.

106. Healing and resurrection should be extremely difficult to come by at all times.

107. The GM should be the 'evil enemy' (as opposed to having an 'in game' enemy).

108. I just love dealing with questions like "how many liters of water, to the deciliter, do I need to take with me on this wilderness trek to ensure my survival?"

109. Movement should be very difficult, avoiding things like fast flying, teleportation, and the like.

110. The opposition should win regularly, killing characters, and forcing players to start over.

111. I would rather see lots of 'tactical melees' rather than 'projects requiring strategic thought'.

112. NPCs should be enemy types only.

113. 'Thieves' should not be specifically superpowered (or as rare as possible).

114. Comments?


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Expedition Mechanics

115. Expeditions should run with all of the players involved.

116. If I have to pay attention to the expedition as it goes along, it is 'too demanding' for me.

117. If I can't roll dice, it isn't worth it.

118. The campaign should involve intense player creativity, including things like art, music, writing, etc.

119. I would like to see more logic problems and thought in the campaign (and fewer 'luck activities').

120. Expeditions should run with an individual character (mine); anyone else present should be just a kibitzer.

121. I want the campaign to run itself, such that the GM can basically sleep through expeditions.

122. GMs who have to leaf through reference materials detract from the expedition.

123. If it is not pre-rolled or computer generated, it is not fair.

124. Players should only run one character.

125. I want the capability of handing in question sets for answering, when I need to.

126. Which of the following 7 responses best describes your feelings toward 'game conflict':
I win when my character slaughters lots of enemies.
I win when my character thwarts an enemy utilizing whatever works for my character.
I win when I beat the opponent and the other characters don't.
I win when I outsmart the GM.
I win when my character is more 'powerful' than the other characters.
I win when lots of NPCs bow and scrape to me as a powerful adventurer or whatever.
Other. Please explain.


127. I don't want to use Email for anything involving the campaign.

128. I don't want anyone else using Email for anything involving the campaign.

129. Handouts and GM generated 'mythos' documents aid the campaign.

130. Maps and the like from the GM aid the campaign.

131. If we can't 'map dungeons', it isn't a campaign.

132. Campaigns that require 'callers' or 'expedition leaders' should be avoided.

133. There should be no discussion of mythos during an expedition. All mythos information (if any) should be through handouts or email.

134. Melees should be computer moderated, making the tactical level be as much like a computer game as possible.

135. A campaign set up such that my hard-won campaign knowledge is useful at the strategic and tactical level is a good thing.

136. Expeditions should require no rules discussions.

137. Guidance from friendly NPCs (for various reasons) is a positive thing.

138. Melees should be run as fast in real time as they are in game time, forcing players to make split second decisions about their characters.

139. The GM must decide things by logic, avoiding the use of dice at all costs.

140. Comments?


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Decision Making About the New Campaign

141. Which section of this survey, 1 through 4, is most important to me?

142. The GM should consider this survey of utmost importance when designing the new campaign.

143. Fooey! I would rather be playing Settlers (et al.), not another FRP campaign.

144. All in all, I would rather see 'totally new things' in a new campaign, not things seen in previous campaigns.

145. Any new campaign should be an utter surprise to me.

146. Comments?
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #1 am: 4.09.2003 | 09:09 »
Der Fragebogen ist echt ganz cool. Aber wenn ich den meinen Spielern vorlege, lachen die mich einfach aus! (140 Fragen beantworten? Bist Du irre??)

Hm, vielleicht brauche ich andere Spieler... *grübel*

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #2 am: 4.09.2003 | 09:10 »
ich habs meinen Spielern gemailt. bisher betretenes schweigen ;)
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #3 am: 4.09.2003 | 09:19 »
Ist ja auch irgendwo noch ein spiel und keine Wissenschaft, gelle ;)

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #4 am: 4.09.2003 | 09:21 »
wohl wahr. wobei die tendenz tasächlich immer mehr zur Analyse eines Spiels / Spielstils etc geht. das wäre in den 80ern nun völlig undenkbar gewesen. Ich finds übrigens hochinteressant.
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #5 am: 4.09.2003 | 10:29 »
Meine Spieler würden mir sagen:

Du kennst uns doch!
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #6 am: 4.09.2003 | 10:46 »
meine Spieler würden mich fragen, warum ich ihnen ne Spammail schicke und mich darauf hinweisen, dass sie sie ungelesen gelöscht haben...
Es gibt drei Arten etwas zu tun. Die richtige Art, die falsche Art und die Dash Bannon Art.

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #7 am: 4.09.2003 | 12:04 »
Ich weiß nicht, was meine Spieler sagen würden, aber ich hätte zuviel Angst davor es ihnen zu geben, denn dann kommt womöglich raus, daß alles, was sie eigentlich wollen ein altmodischer Dungeoncrawl mit "Kill´em and take their stuff" ist.

Und dann könnt ich mir schon wieder eine neue Runde suchen. :(

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #8 am: 4.09.2003 | 12:24 »
Prinzipiell ein guter Ansatz, aber zu lang und komplex.
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #9 am: 4.09.2003 | 12:51 »
ihr seid ja vielleicht jammerlappen ! ;) dann kürzt es auf die Fragen, die euch interessieren.
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #10 am: 4.09.2003 | 18:52 »
Sind das nicht ein bißchen viele Fragen zu einem Themenkomplex? Die ersten 30 Fragen kann man doch fast auf ein "Regeln: komplex oder einfach?" runterkürzen...

Wir haben immer eine Liste mit ein paar Story-Elementen (Dungeons, Romantik, Intrigen, Artefakten, Mystik...) gemacht, die die Spieler dann von 1-6 nach Schulnotensystem benoten konnten. Hat ganz gut funktioniert - abgesehen davon, dass wohl alle völlig begeistert von großen Kriegen waren...  :-\ :)
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #11 am: 4.09.2003 | 21:18 »
Als Spieler 140 Fragen beantworten ist leicht, wenn auch zeitaufwendig. Aber die Ergebnisse bei einer Runde mit 5 Spielern auszuwerten, ist fast unmöglich. Selbst bei einem einzigen Spieler halte ich es für unpraktikabel, so differenzierte Informationen beim Design der Kampagne zu berücksichtigen. Wenn man schon so was machen will, sollte man sich lieber zusammensetzen und einfach mal drüber schnacken, und dabei folgende Punkte ansprechen:

- Setting: Bekanntes? Neues? Eigenes? Welches?

- Charaktere: Was für welche? Welches Powerlevel? Magie? Fremde Rassen?

- Perspektive: Worum soll es in der Kampagne (generell) gehen? Politik und Macht? Reisen und Abenteuer? Krieg und Heldentaten? Gaunereien und Intrigen? Liebe und Verrat? Magie und Geheimnisse? Welche (potentielle) Rolle sollen die Charaktere dabei spielen?

- Genre / generelle Atmosphäre: Was wollen die Spieler? Black and white oder shades of grey? Düster oder bunt? Eine Welt in, der am Ende immer die Guten gewinnen, oder eine, in der die Hoffnung schon lange gestorben ist? Ist ein Kampf ein brutales, blutiges Gemetzel, oder eine coole, stylishe Angelegenheit?

- Abenteuer-Stil: Wie sollen die Abenteuer sein? Was zum tüfteln? Viel Interaktion? Explosive Action? Straighter Plot? Verwinkelter Plot? Oder von jedem etwas?

- Regeln: Simpel? Komplex? Realistisch? Heroisch? Cinematisch?

Die Spieler können formulieren, was sie interessiert, können untereinander diskutieren, sich gegenseitig ihre Vorstellungen näherbringen und sich hoffentlich auf etwas einigen, das (und da wette ich) am Ende gewiss nicht dem entsprechen wird, was bei dem obigen Survey rauskäme, das aber den Geschmack der Gruppe gewiss besser treffen wird. Also, meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach ist der Survey Schwachsinn.
« Letzte Änderung: 4.09.2003 | 21:28 von Lord Verminaard »
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #12 am: 4.09.2003 | 21:43 »
P.S.:

[Provozier-Modus]Außerdem sind die Fragen dämliche D&D-Fragen.[/Provozier-Modus] Im Ernst, einige der Fragen sind ja sinnvoll, aber... Diese hat mir besonders gefallen:

126. Which of the following 7 responses best describes your feelings toward 'game conflict':
I win when my character slaughters lots of enemies.
I win when my character thwarts an enemy utilizing whatever works for my character.
I win when I beat the opponent and the other characters don't.
I win when I outsmart the GM.
I win when my character is more 'powerful' than the other characters.
I win when lots of NPCs bow and scrape to me as a powerful adventurer or whatever.
Other. Please explain.

Welch beschränkte Perspektive offenbart sich in diesen Auswahlmöglichkeiten! *schauder*

Und noch ein wichtiger Punkt: Bei vielen der Fragen wäre meine Antwort "es kommt drauf an." Vielleicht kann ich mir ja ganz verschiedene Kampagnen vorstellen? Und an allen hätte ich Spaß? Was dann?

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #13 am: 5.09.2003 | 20:46 »
[in den sich provoziert fühlen Modus gehen]
What the fu..?
Ach geh doch DSA spielen.. ;)
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Auser dem Begriff GM finde ich an deinem Beispiel nichts was darauf hindeutet das diese Frage besonders viel mit D&D zu tun hatt. Ich könnte die Frage ein paar Vampire Spielern die ich kenne vorlegen, und wüsste ihre Antworten sogar schon vorher.

Den Fragebogen brauche ich nicht, da ich meine Spieler kenne und versuche ihre Vorlieben und Abneigungen bei meiner Kampagnenplannung zu berücksichtigen.
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #14 am: 6.09.2003 | 16:31 »
@ Morpheus: Okay, es sind keine spezifischen D&D-Fragen, aber doch Fragen, die auf sehr "klassische" Rollenspieler zugeschnitten sind, deren prominenteste Repräsentanten nun mal die D&D-Spieler sind. Man könnte es natürlich auch auf Palladium, Warhammer FRP o.ä. beziehen.

Zitat
74. Which of the following 5 options best describes the way you would like to see the campaign run:
I would like to see the campaign run with miniatures at the individual character level.
I would like to see the campaign run with miniatures at the army level.
I would like to see the campaign run 'imagination style' at the high level but with detailed melee combat.
I would like to see the campaign run 'imagination style' at a higher level (and without melee details).
Other. Please explain.

80. I despise 'enchantments' and 'items of power'.

95. I despise the idea of 'multiple universes' in a campaign.

106. Healing and resurrection should be extremely difficult to come by at all times.

113. 'Thieves' should not be specifically superpowered (or as rare as possible).

131. If we can't 'map dungeons', it isn't a campaign.

Aber lass uns bitte keine D&D-Diskussion daraus machen. Mea culpa, dass ich angefangen habe. Bitte nur auf mein erstes Posting antworten! ;)
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #15 am: 8.09.2003 | 04:48 »
Wer seinen Spielern diese 146 Fragen echt zumutet - der ist seine Spielrunde wohl schneller los als er den Senden-Kopf im Outlook drücken kann.

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #16 am: 12.09.2003 | 07:40 »
also, ein spieler hat sie bereits beantwortet. sollen mal nicht so sein, die weicheier. hehehe
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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #17 am: 12.09.2003 | 09:42 »
Nun ja, etwas ähnliches steht mir von meinem nächsten SL ja auch bevor, allerdings fokusierter auf den Charaktere den ich spielen möchte

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Re:Erwartungen / Planung zu einer Kampagne
« Antwort #18 am: 30.09.2003 | 19:59 »
@verminaard: Ich fand die Fragen auch ziemlich D&D-typisch... und ich spiel gerne D&D.

Ansonsten fände ich es sinnvoller, herauszufinden, was Spieler gar nicht wollen/abkönnen - vielleicht haben sie schon 20 Kampagnen mit Dämonen hinter sich und können die nicht mehr sehen, oder sie mögen keine Weltrettungsplots oder kriegen Pickel, wenn der SL sein eigenes "So funktioniert die Welt, es gibt da 12 Mächte..." -System vorstellt. Spieler wissen häufig nicht so ganz genau, was sie wollen, oder sind bereit, viel auszuprobieren, aber es gibt häufig so ein paar Dinge, auf die können sie nicht ab.
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