Thema: [PROJEKT] Questing Knights Spielkarten

[Azzu]

BTW, which stats make sense for the characters? My proposal was Ruhm (Glory), Quest (Accomplished tasks for the Empire, e.g. rediscovering a Lost World), Kampf (Fight), Wissen (Lore) und Rang (Rank). Tech could also be a comparable stat, with a clear advantage for the guildmembers, though ;-)

Sounds OK to me!

An Occult stat would be nice, but as most characters would have a plain 0 in this stat, it wouldn't be any good  .

The idea behind the game concept is, if I get it right, that the player who knows the most about the Questing Knights will most likely win the game. So each stat will have to measured on a different scale, or the game will be too easy - if, for example, 10 were the highest possible level for each stat, you wouldn't require any knowledge to decide which stat on the card is the best  .

Tech could be measured in Tech Levels (3-8, for normal characters), Rank like the Benefice from the rulebook. For the other stats, we'll have to make up the scales independently from the RPG. We could measure Glory on a scale from 1 to 99 (percentage of the Known Worlders who have heard of the character). Lore could be measured in Latin numbers, on a weird scale from 13 to 37. For Fight, I suggest a large scale from 49 to 499 - Munchkinism hey, ho, hey, ho...

Any idea how to measure Quest?

[Diedne]

Since this card game is the work of Alexius and should primarily deal with characters belonging to the Order of the Phoenix, should the Questing Knights be far superior compared to the Cohorts. I think the role of the cohorts, in that case, should be to support/enhance the Questing Knights. And what would cards of other factions do, like aliens, Brother Battle and other non-Phoenix characters?

[Azzu]

Since this card game is the work of Alexius and should primarily deal with characters belonging to the Order of the Phoenix, should the Questing Knights be far superior compared to the Cohorts. I think the role of the cohorts, in that case, should be to support/enhance the Questing Knights. And what would cards of other factions do, like aliens, Brother Battle and other non-Phoenix characters?

Since Fading Suns 2nd edition (in game: since 4999), the Order of the Phoenix is open to members of alls sects and guilds, even to aliens. So there are Brother Battle Cohorts, Ur Obun Cohorts, etc. There are even alien Questing Knights (e.g. noble Vorox or Obun Champions of Vhem). The game will be comprised of characters who are members of the Order of the Phoenix (either Knights or Cohorts), and probably Alexius, as a "wild card".

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

Nah... the Empire wouldn't dare to print a trading card of the Patriarch

Okay... no Patriarch card for the poor Li Halan... 

So who'd like to design what? Guess what's my preference... the Li Halan or Decados sets ;-) But I'm open to all, since I have to draw those characters for Byzantium Secundus anyway...

[Azzu]

So who'd like to design what?

The Hazat knight for me, please. I'd planned to draw a few more variations of the friendly guy dressed in powerarmor that I posted last week in the Art thread anyway  .

I sort of like my latest Scraver picture and would like to use that (with another background, of course).

This Charioteer is one of my favorite drawings, but he doesn't look specifically FS-like (actually, it's an old Star Wars char of mine). Do you think the pic is okay?

Anyway, I'll have to draw a Priest (I don't really care which sect, so make your choice first) and one more character (preferrably something exotic - e.g. an Alien or a Changed).

[Diedne]

I will try to make a Hawkwood QK. Do you have any guidelines, like that all drawings should have backgrounds, full figure drawings etc?

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

Considering upcoming Photoshop work, it'd be best to have white backgrounds for the figures. Pasting them into the card layout should be no problem then.

Okay- so Chris will work on the Hawkwood set and Markus on the Hazat. Azentar? Which one's your favorite?

How should the entourages be made up? Here's my proposal:

Li Halan:
- Knight
- Orthodox Priest
- Charioteer
- Vorox
- ?

Hawkwood
- Knight
- Amalthean Priest
- Charioteer
- Reeve
- Obun

Decados
- Knight
- Kossack
- Muster
- Ukar
- Psionic

Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- ?
- ?
- ?

Al Malik
- Knight
- Eskatonic Priest
- Engineer
- Scraver
- ?

So where goes the Avesti... hate to say it, but he'd best fit to the Li Halan entourage... ;-)

[Vash the stampede]

At first: Hi Kris!

At all: My english is really bad. I testet it yesterday and it was horrible.

I`m still waiting for the updatet print offer. But had asked today again and i think i will geting the offer in upcoming days.

Here's my proposal:

Li Halan:
- Knight
- Orthodox Priest
- Charioteer
- Vorox
- Avesti (and it`s burns, burns burns, the sinner`s body  )

Hawkwood
- Knight
- Amalthean Priest
- Charioteer
- Reeve
- Obun

Decados
- Knight
- Kossack
- Muster
- Ascobite
- Psionic

Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- Etyri
- middle-of-the-road avesti
- Muster

Al Malik
- Knight
- Eskatonic Priest
- Engineer
- Scraver
- Ur-Ukar

[Azzu]

I suppose Kris would like to do a Brother Battle - wouldn't you, Kris? I remember you made a lot of great pictures of your BB character at the Fading Suns MUSH  .

@ Vash: I suggest every Entourage should have at least one priest. Even the Decados Knight's one  .

Here's my suggestion for the Hazat entourage:

1) the Knight (warrior type in powered armor),
2) his Dervish bodyguard (tattooed warrior Psychic specialized in close combat),
3) his confessor, an Amalthean priest (armored field medic),
4) a Scraver Archaeologist,
5) his Cyborg Pilot (Charioteer or Hazat soldier).

There's no Alien in this Entourage, but I think it's already weird enough... what do you think?

[Managarmr]

Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- Etyri
- middle-of-the-road avesti
- Muster

what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
instead of the Avesti? The BB might tolerate it barely.

And please, no Etyri (as a biologist: the way they are pictured & the different races are ridiculous. The concept of their philosophy & religion is nice, though. It works if you would shape their body like the Sung in 2300AD).
What about a Shantor with half plasteel armour & swivel turret equipped with two blaster cannons on the back?

[Managarmr]

Obs! Quoting did go wrong:
So should it be:

Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- Etyri
- middle-of-the-road avesti
- Muster

what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
instead of the Avesti? The BB might tolerate it barely.

And please, no Etyri (as a biologist: the way they are pictured & the different races are ridiculous. The concept of their philosophy & religion is nice, though. It works if you would shape their body like the Sung in 2300AD).
What about a Shantor with half plasteel armour & swivel turret equipped with two blaster cannons on the back?

 

[Azzu]

Obs! Quoting did go wrong:

You can edit or delete your own posts, y'know  .

what about a dervish?

Yup. See my post above  .

(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)

Actually, most Hazat Dervishes rebelled together with Kurgan Dervishes and tried to take over Hira. The Hazat had to borrow psi-resistant Jakovian Kossacks to bring them down.

And please, no Etyri

I wholeheartedly agree!
 

What about a Shantor?

I'm not any good at drawing horses. Someone else would have to do it.

[azentar]

I'll draw the Decados.

- Knight
- Kossack
- Engineer (someone has to take care of the knight's cybernetics)
- Ascorbite (fairly exotic for a noble's entourage and therefore fitting)
- Psionic (Ukar or a minor guild member. An Ukar would be more weird & terrifying and therefore better)

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

Fine. So I'll take care of the Li Halan. What about the al-Malik, anyone?

Oh, and no Etyri, yup. And I'd say no Shantor, too...

[Vash the stampede]

OK, OK, no Etyri, Shantor or someone (or better something) else of the Player Companion Aliens.



@Azzurayelos:
I had only copied Enkidi sugesttion and modified it in my opion. And even she didn`t had priest in the decados group.

what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
instead of the Avesti? The BB might tolerate it barely.

That`s a good point. And i had overseen that there is an another priest is this group.

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

Ah, Decados need no priests... *g*
I thought a Psionic would fit much better. Oh, and the Ascorbite is a very good idea- how could I forget them ;-)

[Boba Fett]

A little Question in OT: Is english as language neccesary? Who's not able to talk in German?
As I remember correctly, I have seen all of you talking German. Or am I wrong?
Even Managarmr and Vash talk German well.

Nur so neben bei, bevor Ihr alle grundlos ins englische abdriftet...

BF

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

We changed to English since Kris Widell joined this thread 

[Boba Fett]

Okay, no problem!
I just wondered!
So have fun an welcome to this board! *smile*

[Catweazle]

Well, this thread inspired me and so, on my way home in the tram, i started drawing a hazat questing knight.

Sigh - I got the impression that my pencil-drawing-style does not fit to a cardgame. And i am bad at colorizing. Never mind: Here is the pic i made:

http://www.lustigesrollenspiel.de/hazatqk.jpg

[Azzu]

Ah, Decados need no priests... *g*

If you say so... but that means another Entourage will need to have two priests. What about the LH?

[Azzu]

Never mind: Here is the pic i made:

It's pretty cool... if you ink it, I'll try and add some color for you  .

[Azzu]

Here's my first shot at the Pilot of the Hazat entourage:

A Charioteer Cyborg  !

[Enkidi Li Halan (N.A.)]

@Azz: way cool ;-) I like the red/yellow catsuit.

@Dailor: She's cool, too. Color'd be fine, but we could also try to incorporate the pencil style into the layout...

[Catweazle]

I can try to do some colors in my holidays in about 2-3 weeks from now.