Thema: [WoD] Grenzenloser Smalltalk

[Wisdom-of-Wombats]

God Machine chronicle ist wieder als POD zu haben. Und im Angebot ist es auch gerade.

Wieso "wieder"?

[killedcat]

Weil die Optionen für POD aus unerfindlichen Gründen für ein paar Wochen nicht mehr verfügbar war.

[Teylen]

Vielleicht ganz interessant, im Mind's Eye Theatre V:tM Kickstarter kam die Frage auf wieso "Deutsch" an letzter Stelle der Übersetzungs Stretch Goals steht.

Nach der Antwort die ich auf Nachfrage hin erhielt berücksichtigte man mehrere Faktoren:

• Anzahl der MET-Spieler in einem Land
• Import-Wege zu einem Land
• Verfügbarkeit eines Übersetzungsteam aus Personen welche die Sprache als Muttersprache haben
• Konsum Verhalten (Wie aufgeschlossen ist das Land gegenüber englischsprachigen Produkten, wieviele/wie gut spricht man in dem Land englisch)

Derzeit sieht die Übersetzungs Reihenfolge wie folgt aus:
- Spanisch
- Italienisch
- brasilianisch Portugiesisch
- Französisch
- Deutsch

[Wisdom-of-Wombats]

Die deutschen Vampire-LARPer klöppeln sich doch eh ihre eigenen Regeln zusammen. Teilweise völlig am Gedanken des LARPs vorbei.

[Teylen]

Hm, irgendwie schon schade. Wobei Frankreich ähnlich weit hinten gelandet ist.
Ansonsten hoffe ich mal das der KS sein Ziel erreicht und es vielleicht dazu passende Gruppen gibt.
Immerhin sind BNS wirklich bemüht ein System zu bieten das nicht mehr die Schwächen vom original MET hat.

Oh, als weiterer Punkt für die Liste hat Dhaunae angemerkt das mehr deutsche englisch beherrschen und gewillt sind englische Bücher zu kaufen als nun Italiener. ^^;

[Nerevar]

Hm, irgendwie schon schade. Wobei Frankreich ähnlich weit hinten gelandet ist.
Ansonsten hoffe ich mal das der KS sein Ziel erreicht und es vielleicht dazu passende Gruppen gibt.
Immerhin sind BNS wirklich bemüht ein System zu bieten das nicht mehr die Schwächen vom original MET hat.

Oh, als weiterer Punkt für die Liste hat Dhaunae angemerkt das mehr deutsche englisch beherrschen und gewillt sind englische Bücher zu kaufen als nun Italiener. ^^;

Das wundert mich wirklich nicht. In Deutschland gibt es sowieso die Tendenz alle Übersetzungen ins Deutsche kacke zu finden.

[Wisdom-of-Wombats]

Das wundert mich wirklich nicht. In Deutschland gibt es sowieso die Tendenz alle Übersetzungen ins Deutsche kacke zu finden.

Meistens zu recht!

[Teylen]

DELUXE! Das neue V:tM LARP System gibt es jetzt auch als DELUXE Fassung! Woah!

Nun und bisher habe ich noch Vertrauen in die By Night Studios das sie wenn eine ordentliche Version hinbekommen,..

[Vash the stampede]

@Murder-of-Crows:
Kannst du vielleicht ein paar gute Übersetzungen nennen? Nur damit ich einen Maßstab habe.

[killedcat]

Ich fand das ganze Warhammer 2nd - Material ausgezeichnet übersetzt (Errata eingearbeitet, Cover überarbeitet, Übersetzung von hoher Qualität, etc.). Auch gut finde ich die Arbeit in der Welt der Dunkelheit.

[Wisdom-of-Wombats]

@Murder-of-Crows:
Kannst du vielleicht ein paar gute Übersetzungen nennen? Nur damit ich einen Maßstab habe.

Äh? Wieso ich? Ich habe gesagt, es gibt keine guten Übersetzungen.

Okay... nicht ganz. FanPro Traveller war recht gut übersetzt.

[Nin]

And Just Like That, It’s June!
By
richt
– June 3, 2013Posted in: Monday Meeting

How did we get here so fast? So many projects- we need to warp time to cover them all.

Like a Time-Lord even. Look at me, the king of segues- so Eddy and I talked about Dr. Who at today’s Monday Lunch Meeting, and as we’ve discussed in the past we’re both kind of “meh” on the show right now.  Now as frequent readers know, we both think Moffat is an amazing writer- I rank “Coupling” up there as one of the best written comedies ever- and we’ve been pretty vocal in our praise of “Sherlock”. But maybe his puzzle-box seasons are a bit too referential (and even reverential) to the previous storylines. I’m missing Davies’ huge moments and sense of fun and drama. Eddy feels like we’re not part of the stories so much as being pulled along through Moffat’s puzzle-knot and his tighter than the norm scripts have set us up to expect every damn plot point to be explained- which both limits the drama and is really not quite Dr. Who and gets folks uptight when he doesn’t tie some things up. Interestingly, we both referred back to Davies’ first year as a truly tight and focused new start for the Dr., and how Eccleston delivered the idea of alien-ness so well. Point being, we look at and often pick apart the creative process and just what is delivered out of that process as a matter of professional interest- although we’re only working on getting to 25 years with our White Wolf projects, not 50 like Dr. Who, the question of creative and authorial tone in the scene, the chapter, the episode, the book, the series, the game-line, the franchise, is one that we face at Onyx Path as well.

We only talked a little bit about Kickstarters- which is a surprise considering the crazy ride we’re having with the Deluxe Exalted 3rd KS. Well, maybe not ups and downs like roller-coasters, more like being simultaneously expanded and contracted by massive forces of the universe. We’ll be starting the W20: Changing Breeds one soon, and I’m actually looking forward to the tighter focus on that one book. What I mean is, we’re really starting to see a kind of division between the “new game” KSs that are essentially a core book that heads up a line, and the “supplement” book KSs, where the book itself is the focus. New game ones are bigger and we find that we can use the Stretch Goals to add all sorts of auxiliary projects that help expand the line beyond just the game books- fiction, music-suites, PDFs of books that wouldn’t have been produced, for example. And that is really such a great thing that Kickstarter can enable beyond the Deluxe book itself. The supplement books seem to create more interest from the backers in Stretch Goals that focus on adding to the book, and only a secondary interest in extra products. Far secondary. Which makes a lot of sense, but is good to see reflected in what we can actually demonstrate with data.

Also we talked spoilers and Game of Thrones. You know what I mean.

Updates about the Present, based on Past messages that you like to know the Future:

-  Strix Chronicle Fiction Anthology (VtR) is in layout.

- Blood and Smoke: The Strix Chronicle (VtR) This is smashing into Rose’s work on Demon and so we re-prioritized her to push the Demon text to editing and for art notes.

- Mummy the Curse - Book and  Screen are at press.

- Exalted 3rd Edition:  Kickstarting like crazy: We funded in 18 minutes, we have 800% funding and are the #1 funded tabletop RPG KS. Headed towards 3,600 backers and those backers have blown through 18+ Stretch Goals.  There will be lots of Updates via the KS that reveal pieces of what will  be in EX3, so keep an eye out for those too. There’s also the map and new art there. The EX3 KS ends Saturday!

- V20 Hunters Hunted 2:  Preparing files for press- getting an OK on the cover treatment from the printer this week. Justin’s working on redlines for the Anthology writers- all but two of the final drafts are in.

- V20 Anarchs Unbound is in editing and we are getting art for it.

- Deluxe Werewolf 20th Anniversary Edition: At press. Mike Lee is almost done the W20 “Houses of the Moon” novel.  The Storyteller Screen files are at press with W20. Bill has prepared the W20 Anthology outline and contracting prospective writers.  The Skinner is approved and the PDF is going out to the KS backers ASAP. Jess Hartley is writing the White Howlers Tribe Book  and the W20 Cookbook is being outlined. Check out some news here: http://whitewolfblogs.com/w20/2013/06/03/white-howler-gifts-and-a-recipe/

-Deluxe Mage the Ascension 20th Anniversary Edition has Phil Brucato writing like a maniac and developing his writers, also like a maniac. Art notes and contracts out to our full-page artist, once we have some feedback from him I’ll look a posting an art blog along with Phil’s developer notes. Very early sketches for the fulls look awesome. Getting art notes out to a ton of classic Mage artists.

- W20 Changing Breeds is in layout. Stew finished his KS Video voice-over. I’d really like to get the KS ready for Kickstarter review and approval over the weekend, but that depends on available time. Will have up to date info next Monday, and as before, we’ll give 24 hour notice before it goes live.

- W20 Rage Across the World: Most of the art is in but two more pieces need to come in.

- Guildhalls of the Deathless (MtC) is into editing and art notes are on their way to us.

- Conventionbook: Syndicate (cMtA) in layout.

- Conventionbook: Void Engineers (cMtA) is ready for editing.

- Mage Translation Guide went live and is doing great on DTRPG.

- W20 Book of the Wyrm is being written and red-lined. Check out the W20 blog notes: http://whitewolfblogs.com/w20/

- V20 Rites of the Blood: is being written and is in Open Dev on the blogs: http://whitewolfblogs.com/v20/

- Trinity Continuum: Looking at the schedule to start setting up writing. John Snead is chasing me through the internet. He almost caught me but I started talking about genre emulation and got away. I might read his outline this week. Gonna get more feedback on the outline, but looks good.

- Scion: Talked to Joe Carriker about the project and broke his back with its awesomeness. When he gets up, we’ll talk about Scion: Origin. Gonna get Joe to share a call with Ian and compare Scion and Trinity notes.

- Demon: The Frutang: lots of example of play commentary including from Black Hat Matt McFarland’s play test are up on the new Demon blog: http://whitewolfblogs.com/demon/ Check it out, there are quite a few playtests posted now and they give a very interesting (if early) look at the game. Text is being readied for editing and Rose is trying to get art notes together. The subtitle has been agreed upon and check out Matt McFarland at Origins for info on that. We’re looking to create a Demon Quickstart to roll out before the game itself as we’re not sure the finished book will hit Gen-Con- but the Quickstart can. If we go with that strategy, we’ll delay the Demon Translation Guide in order to work on the QS.

- Free RPG Day Project: Reap the Whirlwind, for VtR, is a combined 64 page booklet that combines a revised version of “Into the Void” and additional rules files from the Strix and God Machine Chronicles. This will be available at participating friendly local game stores June 15. Real soon.

 

Reason for Drinking: Starting to feel like summer is really here.

http://whitewolfblogs.com/blog/2013/06/03/and-just-like-that-its-june/

[Ein Dämon auf Abwegen]

Hab ihr euch mal den Rites of Blood Krempel angesehen?

Habs jetzt nur quer Gelesen aber so richtig begeistert bin ich nicht.Einzig die Anarchen Zauberei find ich ganz witzig.
Es fehlen irgendwie noch eine ganze menge Pfade und Rituale, Dunkle Thaumaturgie wird regeltechnisch garnicht behandelt und zu den Beschwörbaren Viechern (Geister, Dämonen ...) fehlen mir die Werte, und die Rituale zum Basteln von Gargylen u.ä. hätte man mMn auch ruhig mal ausformulieren können.
Und durch die Änderungen bei Geister Thaumaturgie Pfad sind die Möglichkeiten zum Artfakte Basteln extrem eingeschränkt worden.

[Teylen]

Nein, ich schaue derzeit nur auf den Mind's Eye Theater Vampire The Masquerade Kickstarter.
Der ist schön; der hat Seele. ... Die werden die Deluxe Ausgabe sogar abseits / nachdem Kickstarter anbieten O.O;

Das Rite of the Blood Ding hingehen,... ... brrr *wurgs*
Das werde ich mir wohl nur holen weil V:tM drauf pappt. Das was ich an writeup zu den Giovanni überflogen hab las sich grausig, ziellos rumgelabert. @.@;

[Ein Dämon auf Abwegen]

Nein, ich schaue derzeit nur auf den Mind's Eye Theater Vampire The Masquerade Kickstarter.
Der ist schön; der hat Seele. ... Die werden die Deluxe Ausgabe sogar abseits / nachdem Kickstarter anbieten O.O;

Der Interessiert mich wiederum überhaupt nicht.

[Ein Dämon auf Abwegen]

Existiert der Anarchen-Freistaat bei V20 eigentlich noch/wieder? Da wurden ja auch sonst einiges vom Metaplot zurückgedreht.

[Teylen]

Derzeit gilt wohl: Wie man's mag?  
(Wobei bald Anarchs Unbound gekickstarted wird)

[Nin]

One of Us was Sick, the Other: Tired.
By
richt
– June 12, 2013Posted in: Monday Meeting

Monday Eddy was sick, so we didn’t have our meeting. Tuesday, he was OK, so we did meet over lunch, but then I, overwhelmed by a wave of post-Exalted 3rd Kickstarter whoop-ass, just lagged out. I’m pretty sure the after effects are over, but boy, a month of that crazy Kickstarter really just drained me. But here we are, things are cool now. So here now the news.

We covered a few pieces of art and projects in for approvals at CCP, and there are a couple of the business heads-ups that just kind of get tossed back and forth. Did you see what so-and-so was up to, etc. Since our good friend Adam Jury was down in ATL and visited with Eddy, I got the benefit of hearing about some of their conversations about Kickstarter and the very different experiences Adam has had with his KSs vs, say, the Ex3 KS. Always good to hear some of Adam’s thoughts and I hope to get a chance to personally compare notes at Gen-Con. One thing I thought was interesting was how one KS creator pretty instantly grasps that there isn’t one right way to set up or run a KS, and that we’re still in a state where lots and lots of experimentation is still possible. (This despite some internet pundits who seem sure there is one true way to KS heaven).

Right now, for example with just our own KSs, I’m looking at structuring the Deluxe W20 Changing Breeds Kickstarter along the lines of the Deluxe Hunters Hunted 2 KS, as it seems like there’s strong evidence what backers are looking for with KSs that aren’t “line-starters”. For core books like W20, EX3, or Mummy: the Curse, we have less things we can do to the book itself, but a great chance with the Stretch Goals to add projects that extend the sorts of projects for the line that we can do. Fiction, of course, but I’d never have green-lit the W20 Cookbook, for example, as it’s not what I think the majority of W20 fans would like to see on the official line roll out even though its clearly a fun project. But for the non-Core books, we have received really clear evidence that the backers really want Stretch Goals that let them add to and improve the specific book they’re pledging for.

Its great that KSs let us be so much more responsive to the interests of our fans.

And that’s just us.

When I look at other folks’ KSs, I see a really wide range of usage of the KS basic model, which I think is really healthy. All of us set up an overt KS “Funding Goal to Do X”, but then there’s the strategic goal that I hope all KS creators have past “lotsa bucks”. Because that’s really selling the KS model short. For example, I see the FATE KS seemingly (I say seemingly because I haven’t grilled these guys on this) set up to use KS’s social networks to spread the word about FATE- and there they go with 10,000 backers. Awesome! It seemed to me that Monte was using Numenera‘s KS to roll out an entire two years worth of game line so that he could have that amount of time to enjoy working on the projects without the worry of using one product to pay for the next, and to have the bills paid during that time. Dunno whether I’m right or it worked exactly, as I’m not privvy to that info, but it sure looked like a win from over here. Also awesome!

For EX3, we really wanted the coolest Deluxe we could make, we wanted to add things like fiction or a comic book as I pointed out above, and we wanted to provide a platform that could bring together current or lapsed Exalted fans and show them a whole range of teasers and spoilers in a coherent manner that worked with the Devs comfort level at providing peeks at the new book. Coming in as the #1 funded tabletop RPG KS was just an insane example of how the fans truly love this game. Which we hope we showed that we feel as well.

We also love giving you Updates:

-  Strix Chronicle Fiction Anthology (VtR) is in layout. We’re waiting on a single chapter’s worth of formatting fixes.

- Blood and Smoke: The Strix Chronicle (VtR) This is smashing into Rose’s work on Demon and so we re-prioritized her to push the Demon text to editing and for art notes. Still waiting on some final drafts.

- Mummy the Curse - Book and  Screen are at press.

- Exalted 3rd Edition:  The EX3 Kickstarter is over and was more successful than we could have imagined! The Devs are back to work on the book and I’m creating Reward and Stretch Goal lists so that we can prioritize what needs doing during this two-week period where pledges are being validated by Amazon Payments.

- V20 Hunters Hunted 2:  Preparing files for press- getting a revised quote on the cover treatment from the printer this week. Justin’s working on redlines for the Anthology writers- all but two of the final drafts are in.

- V20 Anarchs Unbound is in editing and we are getting art for it.

- Deluxe Werewolf 20th Anniversary Edition: At press. Mike Lee went back and revised a fair number of chapter in the W20 “Houses of the Moon” novel prior to submitting to Bill for dev review.  The Storyteller Screen files are at press with W20. Bill has prepared the W20 Anthology outline and contracting prospective writers.  The Skinner is  waiting for PoD approval and should be available from DTRPG in a week or so. Jess Hartley is writing the White Howlers Tribe Book  and the W20 Cookbook is ready for editing- which might take a while since our regular copy editors might not be as up on translating UK measurements to US ones. Check out some news here: http://whitewolfblogs.com/w20/2013/06/03/white-howler-gifts-and-a-recipe/

-Deluxe Mage the Ascension 20th Anniversary Edition has Phil Brucato writing like a maniac and developing his writers, also like a maniac. Art notes and contracts out to our full-page artist, once we have some feedback from him I’ll look a posting an art blog along with Phil’s developer notes. Very early sketches for the fulls look awesome. Getting art notes out to a ton of classic Mage artists.

- W20 Changing Breeds  Stew finished his KS Video voice-over and Ian created a video to go with it. Still working on getting the KS ready for Kickstarter review and approval. Will have up to date info next Monday or earlier, and as before, we’ll give 24 hour notice before it goes live.

- W20 Rage Across the World: Most of the art is in but two more pieces need to come in.

- Guildhalls of the Deathless (MtC) is into editing and art notes are on their way to us.

- Conventionbook: Syndicate (cMtA) in layout.

- Conventionbook: Void Engineers (cMtA) is in editing.

- W20 Book of the Wyrm is being written and red-lined. Check out the W20 blog notes: http://whitewolfblogs.com/w20/

- V20 Rites of the Blood: is being written and is in Open Dev on the blogs: http://whitewolfblogs.com/v20/

- Under the Darkening Sky (classic Dark Ages): Being outlined and teased by developer David Hill.

- Trinity Continuum: Looking at the schedule to start setting up writing. John Snead is chasing me through the internet. He almost caught me but I started talking about genre emulation and got away. I might read his outline this week. Gonna get more feedback on the outline, but looks good. Ian now starting a Trinity Continuum Core Book outline.

- Scion: Talked to Joe Carriker about the project and broke his back with its awesomeness. When he gets up, we’ll talk about Scion: Origin. Gonna get Joe to share a call with Ian and compare Scion and Trinity notes- EX3 KS interrupted this, gonna try again.

- Demon: The Frutang: lots of example of play commentary including from Black Hat Matt McFarland’s play test are up on the new Demon blog: http://whitewolfblogs.com/demon/ Check it out, there are quite a few playtests posted now and they give a very interesting (if early) look at the game. Text is being readied for editing and Rose is trying to get art notes together. The subtitle has been agreed upon and check out Matt McFarland at Origins for info on that. We’re looking to create a Demon Quickstart to roll out before the game itself as we’re not sure the finished book will hit Gen-Con- but the Quickstart can. If we go with that strategy, we’ll delay the Demon Translation Guide in order to work on the QS.

- Free RPG Day Project: Reap the Whirlwind, for VtR, is a combined 64 page booklet that combines a revised version of “Into the Void” and additional rules files from the Strix and God Machine Chronicles. This will be available at participating friendly local game stores this Saturday, June 15! Go to the stores, ask for the booklet!

 

Reason for Drinking: Deluxe Exalted 3rd Edition Kickstarter campaign is over and surpassed all of our expectations in every way.

http://whitewolfblogs.com/blog/2013/06/12/one-of-us-was-sick-the-other-tired/

[Ein Dämon auf Abwegen]

Und mal wieder ein paar doofe Fragen zum VTM Hintergrund:

- Wie ist eigentlich der offizielle rechtliche Stand der Salubri in der Camarilla, sind die Freiwild (ähnlich wie die Baali) oder haben die rein Offiziell die selben Rechte wie ein normaler "Nicht-Camarilla-Clan"-Vampir?

- Wie sieht das mit den Wahren Brujah aus, kann man offen zugeben zu der Blutlinie zu gehören oder stürzen sich dann automatisch alle Brujah der Gegend auf einen?

[Orakel]

- Wie ist eigentlich der offizielle rechtliche Stand der Salubri in der Camarilla, sind die Freiwild (ähnlich wie die Baali) oder haben die rein Offiziell die selben Rechte wie ein normaler "Nicht-Camarilla-Clan"-Vampir?

Ohne eine Quelle benennen zu können dürften die (dank HuC) ziemlich deutlich eine Untergrundbewegung sein. (Offiziell gibt es zwar 8 Sulubri der Heilerkaste in der Camarilla spweit ich weiß, aber wenn die nicht sehr gute Schutzpatrone haben, denke ich mal, das Wien da mit einem sehr starken Hehr an Jägern anrückt.)

Freiwild im Sinne von Blutjagdt ist automatisch ausgerufen, dürfte da genausowenig passend sein, wie die rechte der "Nicht-Camarilla-Clans" (zumal die heiler allerhöchsten ncoh als obskure Blutlinie durchgehen würden.

Ich tippe mal darauf, dass die etwas ähnliches gemacht haben wie die Mitglieder von Clan Toreador ( ): Geben sich als etwas Anderes aus oder Hausen im Untergrund.

[Teylen]

Wie ist eigentlich der offizielle rechtliche Stand der Salubri in der Camarilla, sind die Freiwild (ähnlich wie die Baali) oder haben die rein Offiziell die selben Rechte wie ein normaler "Nicht-Camarilla-Clan"-Vampir?

Die Tremere haben verbreitet das die Salubri Seelenfresser sind und schlimmeres.
Sie sind zwar nicht offiziell blutgejagt, allerdings dürfte die Tremere alles daran setzen entsprechend offen agierende Salubri als Dämonenanbeter zu vernichten.

Wie sieht das mit den Wahren Brujah aus, kann man offen zugeben zu der Blutlinie zu gehören oder stürzen sich dann automatisch alle Brujah der Gegend auf einen?

Dafür müßten die Brujah der Gegend erstmal wissen was ein wahrer Brujah ist.
Wenn man es aber zugibt wird man wohl auf kurz oder lang den ein oder anderen Brujah an den Hacken haben. Zumal einen die Brujah als solche wohl noch unsympathisch sind Giovanni den Harbingern. Die Brujah wiederum könnten es als Clansinternen Streit versuchen weg zu buchen.

[Orakel]

@Teylen: Kannst du eventuell ein wenig mehr zu den Wahren Brujah und ihrer Beziehung zum eigentlichen Clan Brujah preisgeben? Ich habe zwar gelesen, dass der Clan (oder Blutlinie) wohl in afrika beheimatet sein soll, aber ansonsten ist mir nichts weiteres zu diesen speziellen Typen bekannt.

[Teylen]

@Teylen: Kannst du eventuell ein wenig mehr zu den Wahren Brujah und ihrer Beziehung zum eigentlichen Clan Brujah preisgeben? Ich habe zwar gelesen, dass der Clan (oder Blutlinie) wohl in afrika beheimatet sein soll, aber ansonsten ist mir nichts weiteres zu diesen speziellen Typen bekannt.

Es heißt das Troile der Clangründer des Clans Brujah tatsächlich den eigentlichen Clansgründer der Brujah - Ilyes - diableriert haben soll.
Noch zur Zeiten der ersten Stadt und so. Während nun die normalen Brujah ihre Linien zum Ursurper Troile zurück führen, führen die True Brujah ihre Linie zu Ilyes als Clans Gründer zurück.

Splat-mäßig sind die meisten True Brujah wohl in der wahren schwarzen Hand bzw. den Tal'Mahe'Ra.
Über Gehenna hieß es dann das Troile zwar Ilyes diableriert hat, es aber keine von Ilyes ausgehende Nebenlinie mehr gibt.
Das heißt die True Brujah waren dann einfach Scholaren die irgendwann Temporis als Disziplin von Ilyes wiederentdeckt haben und sich halt getrennt vom Rest des Clans weiterentwickelten.

Mit Afrika / Ebony Kingdom hat es eher weniger was zu tun.

[Wisdom-of-Wombats]

Es heißt das Troile der Clangründer des Clans Brujah tatsächlich den eigentlichen Clansgründer der Brujah - Ilyes - diableriert haben soll.

Troile die Clansgründerin... es gibt verschiedene Stellen, die andeuten, Troile war weiblich.

[Nin]

Die FreeRPGday PDF für 1,50 EU schmeckt mir nicht.
Das ist zwar fast geschenkt. Aber eben nur fast.